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Post  stavros on Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:15 pm

this olive tree was bought fro a nursery a couple of years ago. It used to be a much taller tree, but the upper part died and they did not what to do with it at the nursery, so i got it for 60 euro..... Smile Smile Smile Smile
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Last year, the tree was bare rooted, the base as cut flat, and planted in free draining substrate.
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A few weeks ago i decided that the future of this tree would be to create deadwood from the upper part and use only the lowest live branches and create a nice crown. The tree was pruned and wired primarily.
Now i must let it grow freely and decide how to deal with the deadwood.
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Any ideas, suggestions???

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Post  Greg on Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:27 pm

Nice one! ITs huge, with a nice base! Its not the wild one with the small leaves but you can enjoy the fruits!
I think you have to leave it for one more year to see the new growth then you can decide.
If you do a defoliation by mid March you may gain new growth from the old wood, think about it.

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Post  stavros on Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:52 pm

this is a virtual i made today.
what do you think??

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Post  Savvas P. on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:46 pm

I dont know re Stavro,you know me,i like olive trees more natural looking,and i think you are waisting all that powerfull trunk with that little foliage....i like to think more naturalistic.....And on this,if i may,i will quote a comment made by the great Robert Stevens on a conversation in another forum which i liked very much,in his effort to tell that we should look at every species with a different perspective....
Mature deciduous tree will never have such apical dominant apex, but wide spread. It's not a matter of wright or wrong, but simply the plant physiology. So in my humble opinion, if you cut the apex a little bit and make the structure wider open, it will resemble better of a mature deciduous tree in nature.....the bolded is what i wanted to point out.

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Post  stavros on Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:30 am

Savvas,

I appreciate your opinion. Naturalistic in olive trees, is to let them grow without restriction, without wiring, having most trees looking similar.
Coming to Robert Steven, have you seen his trees? I don;t think you can find trees in nature that look like some of his trees. BTW, the olive is not deciduous Smile and we are not talking about the tree's apex here Smile

My inspiration for this one came from a few trees i have seen lately, similar to this one. One of them that comes to mind easily is this one by Andes Biciocca
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Are you telling me that this tree looks unnatural? bad looking? not artistic?


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Post  Savvas P. on Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:26 pm

Thats why i bolded why i liked....I just prefer the natural look of a tree.....i put the whole sentense because just that maybe it made no sense....anyway....off course that tree is nice and artistic and sometimes the tree drives you that way,because the foliage comes only from a certain live vein....tastes differ,go ahead my friend,its your tree.... thumbs up thumbs up

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Post  Greg on Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:19 pm

Stauros,
I am glad to see that the tree is very healthy! The tree has a nice trunk and therefore endless possibilities.
The final design Its a matter of taste and the choice is yours.
You can proceed with your drawing or you can can cut all branches and start from scratch. In any case in a few years you gone have a lovely bonsai olive tree.
Well done mate! thumbs up

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Post  stavros on Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:17 pm

Savvas P. wrote:Thats why i bolded why i liked....I just prefer the natural look of a tree.....i put the whole sentense because just that maybe it made no sense....anyway....off course that tree is nice and artistic and sometimes the tree drives you that way,because the foliage comes only from a certain live vein....tastes differ,go ahead my friend,its your tree.... thumbs up thumbs up

it is always fruitful to exchange ideas
i respect your opinion and i know you are a bit "old school' (nothing wrong about it)
i just feel that the tree in the pictue is beautiful and i will try to "copy" the style, since i have a similar situation here

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Post  stavros on Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:19 pm

Greg wrote:Stauros,
I am glad to see that the tree is very healthy! The tree has a nice trunk and therefore endless possibilities.
The final design Its a matter of taste and the choice is yours.
You can proceed with your drawing or you can can cut all branches and start from scratch. In any case in a few years you gone have a lovely bonsai olive tree.
Well done mate! thumbs up

thanks Greg

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Post  Savvas P. on Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:09 pm

stavros wrote:
Savvas P. wrote:Thats why i bolded why i liked....I just prefer the natural look of a tree.....i put the whole sentense because just that maybe it made no sense....anyway....off course that tree is nice and artistic and sometimes the tree drives you that way,because the foliage comes only from a certain live vein....tastes differ,go ahead my friend,its your tree.... thumbs up thumbs up

it is always fruitful to exchange ideas
i respect your opinion and i know you are a bit "old school' (nothing wrong about it)
i just feel that the tree in the pictue is beautiful and i will try to "copy" the style, since i have a similar situation here
thumbs up thumbs up respect my friend thumbs up thumbs up

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Post  stavros on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:49 am

Today, after 3 or so weekends of hard work on the deadwood, and repotting (thanks for the pot Savvas Smile )
, i decided to take a picture.
I am thinking of leaving it in peace for a few weeks and then wire it a bit more. The idea is to achieve a triangular foliage pad. Your suggestions and ideas are welcome...
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Post  Savvas P. on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:17 pm

Stavro the carving is SUPER thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up and i am sure it will be much better as years go by.....The tree is developing realy nice and surely the future is bright for it....Bravo re. cheers cheers

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Post  Greg on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:21 pm

You did a great job on carving!! Nice pot as well. Smile
Just need some wiring and thats it. You will need a few more years for a good ramification thumbs up

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Post  stavros on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:50 pm

the tree needs a few more years to mature and ramify, indeed.
thanx guys

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